Threadjacking/Splitting Threads

Thought about this some more … do we actually realize how many times we answer the same questions, over and over again?

Now THAT is a lot of work. :rofl:

Ps Happens on ALL forums when newbies ask the same questions, when starting out, the amount of posts overall is far too much to deduce the answers they are seeking.

… any case, it was just an idea, use it or not.

If people ask the same questions again and again, then it might be the previous answer is not easy to find (cleaning the threads will help that) or they have some variation of the question.
Perhaps if the same question is asked we need to refer to the original question for the answer.
What do you think of pinned threads/posts. Perhaps that could be useful in some situations?

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I think it would be nice to point askers to other threads. Most forums have an ass or two saying “Use the search function”, but it’s nicer to point someone towards a thread.

If we split threads often and point to other threads often, people shouldn’t get offended when this happens. It’s just how the forum works.

Many forums have waaaay too many pinned posts – it would take a long time to see if your one is in there.

One more thing: Remember that this is currently a forum and not a wiki. It was built for discussion, not as an encyclopedia.

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This is my experience as well. The newbies don’t research the subject in previous threads, they simply ask the same question again!
The gurus who commented on that subject originally aren’t keen to repeat themselves… :frowning:

Exactly!

@TheTerribleTriplet Can you spec the PV array for this bank :scream:
How many panels and MPPT’s ?

TL;DR: over-moderation = bad. This forum needs banter. Start a purely technical section/group. Make quoting mandatory.

Let us see who reads all of this…

It is impossible to have an online forum like this one with the strict adherence of no-derailing, clear-cut topics, no repeating of questions, etc. as some members seem to desire. As pointed out by @mariusm this is not a wiki (not from my understanding of it).

While @mmaritz has been doing a great job at moderating, splitting threads etc. - over-moderation will suck all life out of this forum (being mod is generally a thankless role - props to @mmaritz (and I suspect @Louisvdw too) btw :+1:).

There are probably about 10-15 people who are very active, some like me who only post fairly seldom, people who come with a specific problem that gets resolved/or not and then disappear, and more recently also some link drop advertisers (which at least means the forum gets picked up by google).

Without the banter between the 10-15 active members and repeated questions, many threads will likely not go past 3-5 posts.

Very few threads are of a clearly technical nature. Rather than re-organise the entire forum maybe have a purely technical section in each category type where people are only allowed to post technical posts (“show your calculations” type posts) - and have these limited to for instance only people with a certain post count (or members have to apply to the group mod by stating experience/qualification and/or pass the group entry exam) but keep posts visible for all members to not turn it into a secret society within the secret society… (don’t know if this is possible @JacoDeJongh, @plonkster, @mmaritz, @Louisvdw).

Other than that, many people will arrive here via google and will not use the search function - so the regulars will either repeat answers or use the search function and point people to applicable threads/posts. If new people do not find an answer and do not ask for help, this cannot be helped. This is not a crisis helpline.

Threads will get derailed because for instance the practical limitation of someone typing a response to something specific while three other responses are posted in the meantime that steers the “conversation” somewhere else. Someone arrives 2 days after a thread has died-down (maybe had work commitments etc.), actually takes the time to read the posts in a thread and want to respond to something still related to the general thread topic but again not exactly continuing where the conversation ended at the last post.

When someone replies to a specific post, not having part of the original post included by default makes some of the threads look like a graffiti wall unless you take the time and read through the thread attentively. Maybe the thread “general reply” should be limited to the general/in the weeds/off-topic/drunk posts category and have the specific categories enforce a reply-to-specific-post/s with relevant quote policy (again, @JacoDeJongh et al. no idea if the forum software allows for this).

@Richard_Mackay, maybe make clearer what specifically you want discussed/excluded in a thread you start? A thread about the “challenges of the SA-Grid” during prolonged stage 4 load shedding will very likely end up referring to load shedding and how people respond to it which in turn will likely also then again end-up referring to practical options to

@mmaritz this thread is about threadjacking not PV array speccing - if the mods see this you could be in trouble… :wink: :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Ag easy man … f…n baie panele … dan as jy klaar is, kry sommer nog net soveel panele extra. :rofl:

This is my strategy for the moment. Try and be “light handed” for the moment and hope we can keep a good equilibrium. Thanks for all the very valid points and suggestions @Village_Idiot !

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Perfect chance to keep @TheTerribleTriplet distracted and in this thread :wink:

aaaaaaahhhh, the forum equivalent of sandboxing :smile:

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