Eskom ... is there ANY chance? In CPT there is

Well it is quite simple and easy then hey, do’t fcuk up the services in the first place…. Oh wait….

The market will do what the market will do. It’s like we don’t have an unemployment issue, we have a theft and job creation issue, also one of central control and one of greed. Summed up as a mafia and a cleptocracy.

Groetnis

@Sarel.Wagner , to be clear, I am not criticising the market for doing what they are doing, for creating a parallel state. That’s simple cause and effect. What do people expect, that the people with means are going to sit on their hands so as to not offend anyone?

I am throwing the blame the other way. The state is missing out on huge opportunities. For example, if you run your hospitals in a way that doesn’t scare off your most affluent customers, you can access that funding pool. Rich people would love that, because 1) they get something for their tax dollars, 2) it costs less money. Medical aids will love them for the same reasons. The whole NHI would be a non-issue.

Same for schools. Run schools in a way that people want to send their kids there. Less expensive for the parents, and poorer households benefit from the cross-subsidisation.

Instead, the reverse happens, the rich gets richer, the poor gets poorer. And all of that is predictable. And blamed on the wrong people in the end.

Was that not written in one of the most prominent, most argued, fought over, debated books 2000 years ago?

You are referring to the parable of the talents? To whom much was entrusted, more will be given? Context is a tad different. The best exegesis I heard, is that it points out that if you have debt, or you are lazy, it takes away from the little you have.

That same book also yelled at the “teachers of the law” for cheating widows and stealing their houses. Although that’s not the government (aka the Romans) he is talking about, it was the religious leaders of the time. But enough of that :slight_smile:

This is the core problem …

So now private enterprise must spend to suit the government’s “pockets” ito them not sorting Eskom distribution … which they can privatize … ok, I see.

And he is right… but none of us have been approached with a good business case to sell ours back… Every drop counts they say and no grid upgrade needed (ok a meter).

But NERSA did … then Eskom changed the “rules”, as you posted in that article, hence now they have to go to court to “stop that”.

My take … Eskom will fight tooth and nail to not make it happen. Sorry, the Gov will fight tooth and nail …

EDIT: Has anyone seen any stats of how much capacity has been installed, poised to be installed, but is not, cannot be, connected to Eskom’s grid?

Government hates competition… And they hate competition especially where it gets to taking stuff from the individual. Everything is against the law in terms of this here, except for government and their institutions. They can take freely and they will be blessed… See SARS, see SAPS (oh and they are the only ones allowed violence, we see that every day) see SAA and now Eskom… See etoll and many many others. Gimme gimme gimme, bekotsingswaardig is n Goeie woord. They will fight you with your own money.

DuurGroetnis

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Ditto!

Respect for the engineers, and workers, at Eskom that keeps what is left going against all that is against them. They are fighting a “losing battle”, as hard as they try.

But FFS, say I, stop giving Eskom, the Government, ANY benefit of any hint of any doubt.

Dit is inderdaad “bekotsingswaardig”.

Soos ek se, bekotsingswaardig, almaar van hulle, van die regering all the wat eto Eksdom… The banana republic comes to mind, sprinkle some fairy dust and I can hear the circus music playing…

SirkusGroetnis

Jaaaa boet… Bureaucrats knows nothing about business, nor profits or efficiency, only about the job in a monopoly. See they hate competition…
https://www.moneyweb.co.za/news/south-africa/eskom-is-usurping-nersas-authority-with-its-interim-grid-access-rules/?bid=120_21928_9496197

StadigedoodkomtestadigGroetnis

And that was as of Jan 2023, so 2022 … what Sarel said …

Anyone not blasting Eskom vehemently is helping the Gov “get away” with it.

There, I said it.

The Bid Windows 7 … what a farce!

Even the new Minister said it …

Makes one wonder who will benefit from these rules then…

From the article I posted above;
Unsuccessful applicants – who were on the verge of getting allocations before the proposed new rules were implemented – will not be able to meet project deadlines and may incur severe penalties and immeasurable damage to their reputations.

He warns that allocating grid capacity in terms of unlawful rules will lead to chaos that will delay the addition of sorely needed new generation capacity to the Eskom grid.

What government says

During the weekly update on government’s energy action plan on Sunday, Rudi Dicks, head of project management in the Presidency, denied that industry players were critical of Eskom’s interim rules. He said a meeting was held between government and industry on 13 July, and Eskom is taking suggestions made on board.

He said efforts will be made to settle the matter out of court, but “we have to get more megawatts on the grid and the rules are designed to achieve that”.

Electricity Minister Kgosientsho Ramokgopa said the rules are an effort to expedite the on-streaming of renewable energy, and government would liaise with the parties to find a solution that puts the interest of the country first without interfering with the court process.

My guess … we don’t know yet. Wonder if they know …

Maybe it is sheer incompetence, as you said “Bureaucrats know nothing about business, nor profits or efficiency, only about the job in a monopoly.”

Wait, hold on …

I stopped reading …

How the #*$&% can anyone keep on opening bid windows, touching on 8, and then we have that the grid is maxed … now resorting to the courts to do what … tell Eskom to spend more money on capacity on the lines?

What about the slaughterhouse of bid windows 1 - 6? R100 million wasted?

I “feel” that any MORE investment done going forward by private enterprise is silly. You cannot trust a word “these people” are spewing out “looking” like they are doing anything (read nothing).

And a court ruling will not change the basic fact … the lines are maxed out.

Agreed, but are they, maybe they know it’s not depleted, maybe allocated and not used?? Maybe reserved for some cozy brother in law or tenderpreneur or might kickback to Letsstealhouse…. But then I may be mad and just talking k@k :face_vomiting:

Groetnis

Thought of that, the BIL … but then I wonder, all that “waste” to date … then again, drain the “competition” of their funds first, buy it all up for a song and connect it … then again, I don’t think “they” can plan that far ahead.

Cause if tenderpreneurs was in the “play”, it would have been “sold” to SA already like in “look at this successful BBBBBBEEEEE”. (Don’t know how many B’s and E’s are applicable today.)

I think it is “Bureaucrats know nothing about business, nor profits or efficiency, only about the job in a monopoly.”. No malice, just sheer incompetence will do.

EDIT: I wonder if the BIL is still in “play”. Maybe he even does not trust Matanshe …

From my experience, there is a shit ton of malice involved, let them eat. Lots of that…

Groetnis

If we say that, then we will get “Never assume malice when incompetence suffices.”.

:slight_smile: