The last time we tried that, it blew back on “us” something terrible.
Look, the simple truth is that people always call for unity when it suits them. Every president in every country, right after winning an election, always calls for unity. He is essentially telling the people who hates his guts: Oh come on, let’s work together!
(That’s like telling your wife to calm down. Never in the history of people getting married did a husband telling his wife to calm down actually cause her to calm down… ).
About two national election cycles ago, the ANC had billboards up saying essentially the same thing. Let’s work together! Here is the question, dear reader: Would you vote for the opposition purely on the basis of unity?
Calls for unity almost always translates to: Just agree with me now so we can save time and I can do what I wanted to anyway.
The simple truth, for me, is that there are a number of people asking for “Eendrag” who can go take a long walk off a short pier as far as I am concerned… and that is why it is not happening.
Edit: Let me temper that rant a little. The main reason I dislike the suggestion, is because it is exclusivist. We need to get away from the idea of “whities” doing this or that. There’s maybe 7% of us by now…
Correct, because some tried that, instead of all in the rainbow nation.
I’m firmly of the opinion that SA as a nation is deeply gatvol, that we can stand together as one IF the bloody radical politicians “can go take a long walk off a short pier”.
Look, this is a sh1t show of note, should you have asked me, but you didn’t. My crystal ball as you have seen is distinctly grey
After almost a 1000 posts, me thinks answering the original question, it’s no. Over the next few years this is going South at a rate of knots. I am planning to do more to get off the supply, won’t feed that Patronage network. Same for Water and I do have a garden and a tractor to us to grow food should the need arise, but this is another conversation altogether.
The do more part is more batteries, I hope by month end to get 8kWh more. Expanding the bank is all I need, and then get the Aircons up and running.
I think it depends on how you define “a chance”. I’m trying to be a little philosophical, I’m not merely trying to disagree… I think you are probably right in broad strokes.
If I word the question differently, and I ask Is there a way to turn this around before it hits rock-bottom?, that is a much different question to Is this ever going to be fixed?
One way of fixing something is to completely destroy it, and then start with something new. You know, the typical civil war story. Once there is nothing left, and everyone is either dead or made another plan, it becomes easy to restart.
That process also gets rid of the parasites, the ones who are there only because there is a river of money to take a bucket to. As we have seen with land invasions in Zimbabwe, many people arrived, slaughtered the cattle, then hunted the wildlife to extinction, and then moved on, leaving anyone who wanted to build something with a blank slate.
Finally, there is also the question of how much room there is at the bottom. We still have some ways to fall, and that means I don’t have to start running immediately.
My plan, should things get bad, was always to get out. I’m not staying. I’m not doing the prepper thing
Jip, when this thread was started, I placed my bets on “No chance”.
CoCT, that was added later, maybe, but it is like having a light on with the rest of SA dark, the moths will cover the light chop-chop, so yeah, not an answer either, unless all Munic’s step up, and we know that is not gonna happen anytime soon, if ever.
Would be really surprised if SA does not go down hard and fast one of these years, burning too.
I’m not negative, but there is only so much a nation can take, before a revolution is forced upon them.
Unless a new political party rises up and grabs the majority of SA’s voters as in “United we stand”, because “divided we fall”, because we want to stand together, want to work together for our mutual benefit.
Was it perfect when the new people took over Eskom, no. It was however the best run SA SoE. It was amongst the best in the World at the time. Took only 15-20 years to kill it. It had all the engineering and staff it needed.
Ideology, thievery and BEE made sure this happened. Wash rinse repeat, look at all the SoE’s. This is just a network to get the hands in the cookie jar… Will this be fixed? Will Eskom 2.0 work? Nope, its the same actors and ideology and politics.
And what could be done if there was a way to recover the monies:
The bottom line is it is VERY positive, as bad as it is for us … because real big spenders are now getting involved. Politicians in charge … their days are numbered.
And renewables, when he compares what happened in Germany, and the USA, I agree with him. It is not going to work.
EDIT: The Unions, DA, ANC, Engineers, and Eskom, all are talking to them.
He is CEO of the Energy restructuring business helping Creditors avoid disaster. He is a potential Political figure, I saw him running for office, as fas as I Know.
From what I could see, reading the actual report online, they requested all creditors to send them the investment/loan info so they could add all together. It appears to me, there is no data, only my speculation, that the company wants to seize the assets, ring fence that and take control of all supply contracts on behalf of the creditors.
I really think what he says ties in with what we’ve discussed here on this thread, and listen to the big picture. The rubber is hitting the tar here, it is now down to creditors and money and it affects every single taxpayer in SA, WE owe that money to the international creditors, not the #($*% ANC.
Problem here is we already paid, now we need to pay again as some of that money was found in a couch on some farm somewhere in Africa. Where the rest went, maybe these guys guys can tell…
For the first time in SA/Eskom’s history, the chickens have arrived and they are very horny and very hungry. They want their pound of flesh.
I’m REALLY now ticked off at Big Business, the Banks, The Reserve Bank, and all and every political party, that was more aware of this than the general populace.
We imported batts for a group of us, pocket cents man, compared, the exchange controls are very strict in getting money out, and SARS involvement is intense.
Yet how the #($*% did billions leave SA so easily!?
We know how, but no one did anything about it, not the Banks, not the Reserve bank, not the Big International companies fingered, auditing firms, ABB, a host of high-profile international companies, and definitely not any and all Gov Departments.
Imagine SA taxpayers can stand up together as one and approach The Hague, and collectively sue any and all businesses, Gov’s, that are/were involved in SA’s State Capture.
“Our” money was stolen.
No one fingered can be overlooked, politicians, and Big Business, are to be held responsible in their private capacity if they had any involvement whatsoever.
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