Eskom ... is there ANY chance? In CPT there is

All of this, speculation at best, likely guesswork would be more accurate. money and power, so lotsa money behind closed doors. What do we know, only some of the things that transpired in the past, but only some things…

What the forces are that determines decisions and outcomes, as clear as mud. Mostly political spin, as that gives access to power and that ultimately to money, that is the goal. Stay in power at any cost, keep access to money, simple ne. Follow the money, most of them new millionaire and more.

GeldGroetnis

What the Villiage Encyclopedia reported …

Now we are taking …

I think with all we speak of here … this is still a very valid point from Zapiro.

I wonder what is happening here …

Smoke, fire, but what is the actual story here?

Seeing As China is also geared to “jump in” if Gov “relaxes a bit” on BEE rules.

Then there is this …

Then there is this …

Before that was discussed here … no answer yet, as Eskom is footing that bill, hence we are. Court decisions or not. Someone is footing that bill when Munic steals the monies paid to them, with no consequences for them.

Let us not forget who elected the Muni and who benefits from the people in charge…

Both articles are from “Broad Media” though, which means finding the fire behind all the smoke is going to take a Journalism degree.

Edit: Honestly, I don’t think there is much potential in their list of maybe 400 people. A number of people on that list, won’t actually take the job even if it was offered. I mean, how many of you have applied for a job to test the waters, not intending to take it? Or applied to a job, knowing that you are unlikely to get it anyway? What I am saying is that of the roughly 400 on the list, probably less than 100 is really “clamouring” for it.

The list is, and has always been, a political point being made by Solidarity about the mistreatment of its members. The point isn’t invalid, and Solidarity (being a trade union) is just doing its job, but let’s call a spade a spade.

Yeah, I also think that is probably the core reason … my one pal who worked there was “worked out” being white. He will NEVER go back.

Not that any reporter would dare report that.

At least Solidarity tried something. Rather have them try something than what we have in charge.

Also keep in mind that Eskom reports they actually appointed 18 people from that list!

Are we expecting them to appoint all of them? 100?

Is the fact that 18 was appointed not in itself somewhat of a success? How many were approached, how many even responded (even if it was an outright no)… those are all numbers we don’t have. The story is sold as: White people could be saving Eskom, but Eskom don’t wanna!

Again, as I said, they are just doing their job. They are doing exactly what you expect of a trade union. I’m not criticising them for doing what they did.

Janee ok … my time is worth more than yours cause I’m important … or so I think.

“Feels like” Ramokgopa is ducking and diving.

Sug …

This part … death spiral?

As I said to the wife the other day, that EAF squiggle is always going up and down in the short term, but in the long term you can fit an average through it, and that is the line you really care about.

While things are getting worse, there will always be better weeks within the getting-worse part. Conversely, when things are getting better, there will still be worse weeks.

Which one is it? Well, we don’t know. We have our suspicions, we have our predisposed ideas, we have the history, and we have the media (whom I’m increasingly distrusting, with the possible exception of Daily Maverick).

As a friend of mine said: In any newspaper, you have facts, opinions, and propaganda. To find the facts, turn to the obituaries. Those people really are dead. Then turn to the advertisements. Up to 50% off? Sure, that’s your opinion. From there it just gets worse…

You just read the headline, not anything else … didn’t you? :rofl:

Cause I’m thinking of what Treasury said on Munic Debt, in their words. About Eskom sales volumes and resultant debt increase …

No, I read the “Mybroadband” part too. I didn’t read more than that. Then I ranted a bit :slight_smile:

But yeah, you quoted the relevant parts, and they are probably true enough. Thanks, saved me the time.

Here you go … along same lines as “Mybroadband” …

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EAF

One direction, no not that band, down…

SpiraalGroetnis

The trouble is, sans the crystal ball, are we on the blue trajectory, or the red one?

(drawn a little sloppy, I just threw an ellipse through the curve and let it fall off the image).

You should know… The pattern repeats year after year. EAF for week 34, 2023, is 55.32%, compared to 61.10% for week 34, 2022. The EAF for the 2023 calendar year to date is 54.52%, compared to 59.78% for the same period in 2022.

AfwaartsGroetnis

Oh I know. But again, I am reminded of David Hume saying that you cannot infer that the sun will rise tomorrow just because it has done so a million times before. That the sun might not rise tomorrow is a completely logical possibility. It is highly improbable though (that it will not rise).

Same here. It is probably more probable, given the fundamentals, that it will continue to repeat the pattern for another while.

And I would call that the statement of the Millennium… A few reasons why it will continue to decline year after year.

  • The plant is getting older
  • The politics are not changing
  • The staff and unions remain the same
  • Councils are still not paying and this trend is increasing
  • More private Solar, so demand and payments are reduced
  • Criminals and syndicates are not being stopped, not even slightly
  • Lack of maintenance

Groetnis

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