Any Donald Trump supporters?

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Oh I know, but I think that is the end result of the “we need stronger leadership” argument.Oh, we need to weather Trump, the outcome will be alright… no no no. Sorry. There are better ways to get there.

Indeed, which is probably why knowing History is so important. Trump says he believes they will get Greenland. That they absolutely must have it because their national security depends on it, he doesn’t think Denmark should have a claim on it, he’s willing to pay good money, The Greenlanders wants to be with the US anyway, and… the clincher… only America can provide the freedom these people desire.

Now where did we hear that before? Aaah yes, when Russia wanted a part of Finland. Or that time Russia decided Ukraine is theirs because most people there are secretly Russians at heart anyway.

Honestly, I deeply suspect Jacob Zuma was 2 thousand and eleventy million point 7 times less of a liability.

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Been pondering on that … how do you see a better way with Trump in charge?

Because face it, Trump will do what Trump thinks is right, no matter what better ways there are, not so?

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Can’t be done with him in charge. What I am saying is there are better ways to be a leader. There has to be.

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I agree … they just need to step forward, have the peoples hearts, care for serving, and be young enough to get the youngsters to vote for them.

They are out there … just not around today.

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I don’t read what you are writing here…it is what Trump is saying
They have own government and want to stay independent, but welcome closer ties if it is beneficial to the population and the country

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Yes, that is what I mean. From the Article:

“I think the people want to be with us,” Trump said when asked about the island in the press room on board the presidential plane.

And…

“I don’t really know what claim Denmark has to it, but it would be a very unfriendly act if they didn’t allow that to happen because it’s for the protection of the free world,” he added.

That sounds like a threat…

“It has nothing to do with the United States other than that we’re the one that can provide the freedom. They can’t.”

Like, seriously… what!?

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I agree with this … the Covid and transgender policies wiped off the slate in particular.

Trump ends DEI in US military and reinstates unvaccinated troops

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Cadets from the US military academy in West Point, New York, at their graduation in 2021. Photograph: Eduardo Muñoz/AP

Donald Trump signed a series of executive orders on Monday that remove diversity, equity and inclusion policies from the US military, and reinstate thousands of troops who were removed for refusing Covid vaccines.

One of the orders, which says it aims to eliminate “gender radicalism in the military”, appeared to be aimed at transgender soldiers. In his first term Trump froze the recruitment of trans troops, while allowing serving personnel to remain in post; the move was reversed under Joe Biden.

The developments came on Pete Hegseth’s first full day as defense secretary, after he narrowly secured enough Senate votes to be confirmed in the post. During his remarks to reporters as he entered the Pentagon, Hegseth referred to the names of Confederate generals that were once used for two key military bases.

  • When were unvaccinated troops dismissed? Thousands were fired from the military after the Pentagon made the Covid vaccine mandatory in 2021.

Tail wagging the dog?

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Read somewhere, if Trump made a couple of changes, it would be easier to stop.
If he makes 100’s, it would be near impossible to reverse …

The pushback is there …

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The White House budget office said federal funds shouldn’t be used to “advance Marxist equity” or “transgenderism.” Doug Mills/The New York Times

Chaos and uncertainty after Trump freezes spending

A federal judge yesterday temporarily blocked an order by President Trump to freeze trillions of dollars in federal grants and loans. Separately, Democratic attorneys general in 22 states and the District of Columbia filed a lawsuit against the order, saying Trump had gone far beyond his legal powers.

Even before 5 p.m., when the freeze was to take effect, a variety of systems and programs were disrupted, leaving millions unsure if they would lose access to jobs, services and health care. Here’s the latest.

Trump’s order, which has led to confusion and outrage, is part of an effort to remake the government in his image, following sweeping cuts to international aid that he introduced last week and an effort to scuttle any government policy or program that he and his allies might call “woke.”

His administration says the freeze would let it inspect programs to make sure they don’t conflict with its agenda, subjecting them to what my colleague Nicholas Nehamas calls “ideological litmus tests.” The White House says government money should not “advance Marxist equity, transgenderism and Green New Deal social engineering.”

Foreign aid: The Trump administration told organizations in other countries to stop distributing H.I.V. medications purchased with U.S. aid. Humanitarian organizations in Ukraine said they’d been forced to suspend operations that include the delivery of assistance to war veterans and to civilians displaced by the conflict there.

What to know: The leaders of global humanitarian organizations said they had “never seen anything as sweeping” as Trump’s suspension of aid, said Edward Wong, a diplomatic correspondent. “Many programs,” he added, “won’t be able to maintain the integrity of their projects if they stop now and then wait to restart their work later, if they are even allowed to.”

In other news:

  • The Trump administration gave roughly two million federal workers the option to resign but be paid through the end of September.
  • A deliberate effort by the president and his team to “flood the zone” with an unceasing flow of initiatives has knocked his rivals off balance.
  • Caroline Kennedy urged senators to reject her cousin Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s nomination for health secretary, calling him unfit and a “predator.”
  • Tulsi Gabbard, Trump’s pick to oversee national intelligence, was subjected to special scrutiny last year while en route to an event organized by a European businessman who was on an F.B.I. watchlist.
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That is also something I disagree with. Look, I’m as conservative as they come, but when I deal with other people I have to ask what the point is of doing something. If they respect the dress code (the military has one I expect) and they get the job done, why would you mess with anything?

In this day and age, we are already at a point where only your doctor really needs to know your gender, and in his case it is pretty important that he knows the biological gender because as it turns out, the kinds of cancer you get differs depending on that, to name just one. Your bank probably doesn’t need to know… other than maybe being nice and printing the right title at the top of the bank statement.

So even as a conservative Christian, I find myself in disagreement with this. What possible good can come of this?

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The converse … rules was made by the Democrats that should not have been forced onto the majority, who did not really care in the first place.

This has been around humans since forever.
Just don’t make rules that forces the majority, who tend to be male/female focused, into forced compliance to accept every single permutation people are thinking up today.

Read a while back, the Democrats went a bridge too far with this. They misread their general voters completely.

Should never have gone this far in the first place.

Ps. I do know gay people, close friends and family. They tend to carry on.

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But I just don’t see it here. He wants trans people to be pushed OUT of the military. Why not just leave them alone? The number in the general population is less than 1% of the population, apparently around 0.6%, and the ones who want to join the military must be a vanishingly small number. If they do the job and stick to the dress code, what’s it to him or anyone?

Forcing it only causes problems. Leave it be.

Edit: Let me be clear, at the risk of attracting an unfavourable label: Gender dysphoria is a kind of body dysmorphia. It is far better for the human organism to live in harmony with the body he or she was given, but in those cases where such a person can’t… what are the rest of us supposed to do? Make it even harder?

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I agree with you.

A miniscule of the majority had an issue with people not conforming to their beliefs.
To “fix that”, it was “decreed” you will accept "them/they/LGB - the whole alphabet, to win more votes.

If the “alphabet” kept to but a few letters, not the whole alphabet, the consequence that others jumped on the bandwagon, the cat vid as example, status quo could have been kept as before meddling by the Democrats, for votes.

If the Democrats left it alone, Trump would have had nothing “to reverse”. Would not have even been on his radar.

Now because it is on his radar, now the baby, soap, shampoo and the water is being thrown out.

As you said, leave it be … the Democrats should not have made it into an issue, force the majority into acceptance.

Consequences of their action. Trump now wants to “fix it”.

And he too now throws the whole caboodle out.

Balance people, balance.

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I disagree here. Well, I both agree and disagree, but it is complicated. On the specific matter (not the broader one) of trans people in the military: Until 2016, Trans people were formally banned from being in the military, in other words, there was active discrimination against such people.

Let me again be clear that I do not intend to use the word discrimination in the usual way we use it, with an implied negative connotation. Sometimes discrimination is fair. Sometimes, a particular aspect might disqualify you from being able to do the job. The question is whether that was the case here. I am unsure if that is so. Which is why I keep asking if, given that the job is done and the dress code is kept, why it should be an issue?

If my argument is sound, then reversing this decision was a regression. It didn’t fix anything. It broke something that used to be fixed.

In the broader sense of government being involved in things it need not be involved, and then legislating behaviour… yes, I agree. Some of this is lashback to what people felt was “things going too far”. I still think it is far better to ask “how do we handle this gracefully in a manner that hurts the least people”, instead of just turning the clock back to “a better time”.

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Yes, how?
Then, how will anyone get Trump do that?

I like this discussion. It brings to the forefront the ideals we should be striving towards, and the hard facts in real life.

Then we complicate the entire thing immensely, just on this thread, by adding more views and opinions on how to handle the minority when the minority of the majority has an issue about the minority.

And then we throw in religion on top of it all … just to make it even more complex.

Too many varied strong opinions lead to more and more laws with little to no common sense left.

… and legal action for anyone who offends anyone else in the discussion of what works the best. :rofl:

The world is in a deep conundrum … we are where we are because we just create more laws to try and stem the runaway thoughts of every Tom, Dick, Harry and Karen.

They will never allow a benevolent dictator to drive the human race towards the next level of common sense.

We need a big war … to stop this fiasco, bring back sanity for those that survive.

There, I said it.

For I do not see, at my age, how this thing ends with general populace common sense.

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Just gat this in …

As I said before, the aid, does not seem to reach those that REALLY need it, like woman and children … if I can have some authors freedom in this statement.

EDIT: The problem coming, the woman and kids are going to suffer the most.
And THAT annoys me endlessly.

Bwhahahahaha … epic!!!
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We had two cases where I live, both in primary schools. Both kids with gender dysphoria.

At the one school, it was parents who were actually religious themselves. They worked with the school. They tried what they could. Eventually they decided the best course of action is to let their kid wear a skirt. The school accommodated the child with bathroom facilities. Problem solved.

At another school in the same town, same thing happens, but this time it is a genetic female who represents as a boy. Kid wants to swim in boy’s swimming kit. That means… no top. School tries to get parents to agree to wear full length swimming costume. School relaxes dress code so that anyone can wear pants if they want (even the girls). Parents takes kid out of school, then drags school through the media mudpit…

In the first case people were trying to find a solution. In the second, they were dealing with “activists”. I can understand why the second kind of event is feared…

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As can I.

Wish there was a sane way, as per school two, to handle these “activists”.
Sometimes some of them can cause real problems for most.

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One of my clients is a company that helps directly with HIV work in South Africa, and is / was being funded by USAID (PEPFAR).

The money does reach the correct people, but now won’t.

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Man, that is good to hear.

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President Trump reversed an order to freeze trillions of dollars in federal grants and loans. Doug Mills/The New York Times

Trump reversed an order to freeze federal funds

The White House yesterday walked back President Trump’s order to freeze trillions of dollars in federal grants and loans. A federal judge had on Tuesday temporarily blocked the order after it caused mass confusion across the country.

The Trump administration had struggled to explain the funding freeze, a decision that interrupted the Medicaid system, which provides health care to millions of low-income Americans.

Karoline Leavitt, the White House press secretary, wrote on social media that “This is NOT a rescission of the federal funding freeze.” She said the president’s executive orders on federal funding “remain in full force and effect, and will be rigorously implemented.”

The decision by the Trump administration to pull the directive was a significant reversal. Democratic leaders celebrated the announcement.

Grilling: Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Trump’s pick for health secretary, faced tough questions and struggled to convince senators that he was not against vaccines during confirmation hearings in Washington. Kennedy — who has been vocally skeptical of vaccines, supports unorthodox diets and has spouted conspiracy theories — is one of Trump’s most polarizing choices.

Guantánamo Bay: Trump has ordered his administration to prepare to house 30,000 “criminal aliens” at the Navy base. In recent weeks, about 40,000 immigrants have been held in private detention centers and local jails around the country.